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swin
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:03 am    Post subject: NEW Blue October Live Taping Policy Reply with quote

We've listened to all of your feedback and have decided on a new policy on taping live shows. Read on:

Live Recording Policy


Taping

Blue October allows audio taping at almost every live performance. We feel that each show is unique and want to offer our fans the opportunity to recreate the live experience through the audio reproduction of our shows. At all taping authorized performances; tapers can tape from any ticketed seating location in the venue. Also, for many of these performances tapers are able to purchase tickets for a specially designated taper section, normally located immediately behind the soundboard. No soundboard or power feeds are provided. NO VIDEO CAMERAS.

Blue Octoberís taping policy is that you may bring a hand-held Walkman-type AUDIO recorder for personal use. . Wireless receivers are strictly prohibited. We sincerely appreciate all of our fans, so we ask that you please be considerate of those around you by not obstructing anyone elseís view of the performance.

Blue October brings their own security to coordinate with the local security before each show. Promoters and venue security will be aware that small, hand-held audio recorders are permitted, but occasionally this message does not get through to those at the doors. Scott Barnes, Blue Octoberís road manager, would like you to ask for him if you have a problem at the door and are told that you canít bring in your hand-held audio recording equipment.

Please remember that the spirit of the taping policy is for each person to have a personal memory of the show. If the equipment is too sophisticated, itíll be considered bootlegging gear and will probably not be allowed. There isnít a list of recorders or gear thatís allowed, so please use your good judgment and common sense. OK are Walkman-type, hand-held recorders: cassette, micro-cassette, mini-disc are fine. NO-DATS. NO EXTERNAL MICS. No Standing mics. No booms. No pre-amps.

All recordings must be used for personal use or trading only. Selling or commercializing any recording is illegal and will jeopardize taping privileges for everyone. Please read our Bootleg Statement for more information.

In addition to helping fans recreate the live experience, we hope tape trading will foster greater interaction within the fan community. Any method of trading that does not involve personal fan interaction defeats the spirit of this goal of the taping policy and is not authorized. In particular, posting audio or video files on web sites for streaming to or downloading by the public is not authorized.

Audio Video

All Audio and video performances belong to Blue October and are not available for promotional or commercial use without the explicit prior written consent of Blue October. Please read our Bootleg Statement for more information.

Web Sites

Blue October endorses the creation of fan web sites; however, the images, audio, and video material found on www.blueoctober.com and www.blueoctoberfan.com belong to Blue October and may only be used with the Bandís prior consent. Please e-mail us at swin@rainmakerartists.com to request consent.

Print

All lyrics, CD covers, and other original artwork designed by or for Blue October belong to Blue October. Please respect the bandís ownership and refrain from infringing upon copyrights.

Bootleg Statement

A notice to our fans about Bootleg Recordings, Television and Radio Broadcasts:

We would like to thank those of you who have been helping us with the bootleg CD problem. For those of you who are unaware of whatís been going on we would like to let you know that Blue October encourages the taping of our performances, but only for personal use, including trading, as outlined in the Taping Policy Statement. The proliferation of commercial resale of recordings of our concerts has become a concern to us. Commercial bootlegís are not only excessively priced and of inferior quality, but primarily, they are an illegal use that threaten the taping privileges of everyone. Due to the efforts of a few unscrupulous tapers the privilege of recording live performances has been jeopardized. Those of you who have passed along information about commercialized recordings have been very instrumental in our fight against these bootleggers. Once again we turn to you to assist us with putting a stop to this use of our music. If you see Blue October music being used in what you feel may be an uncomfortable situation for the band, we ask you notify us by e-mail or fax. Please provide the date, time, station, program name and song used. And donít forget, the battle against bootleggers is an ongoing one. We still encourage you to e-mail or fax us the name and locations of any retailers or distributors of bootleg CDís along with the titles and quantities in stock. With your help, we can stop the flood of illegal recording and preserve the privilege of our fans to record our performances. We can be reached by e-mail at swin@rainmakerartists.com or by fax at 214.744.0293.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so can ya bring camera to the shows??
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Boston HOB Show - Taping was refused? Reply with quote

I heard from taper that they were told by the Boston House of Blues management (who supposedly asked Alan Adams directly) that taping of the show last night was not allowed (on 5/3/09).

If taping "at almost every live performance" is generally allowed with personal recorders, what are the exceptions to this rule?

A clarification would be most welcome - for the BO taping/trading fan base.

Like the taper last night who walked into the venue with the recorder in their hand and then LATER were told they could not use it. They had to go to their car and put it away and then return. It would have been nice to know that info in advance.

Thanks very much!
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An exception would be when the venue has their own rules. Same goes for the camera/photography policy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the policy at the Casino Ballroom in New Hampshire...
"Are cameras or tape recorders allowed?
Cameras, video recorders, tape recorders or any type of recording device are prohibited inside the venue unless otherwise specified by the artist."

It is right there on their website, but we still have no answer for the camera. I can't wait to go to this show!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Hampton Beach Casino Aug 29 Reply with quote

i am new to the Blue October online fan community, but i am an active member of U2's online community. For years i have been trading bootlegs with other U2 fans but i now found myself in desperate need of some live Blue October. i've read the band's official policy and know that they approve of the bootleg thing, but, i don't know how to go about finding somebody to get me started ... I am specifically looking for last night's show at the Hampton Beach Casino in New Hampshire. For those of you that were there I am sure you'll agree that it was a passionate, fiery show ... I've not seen that many Blue October shows (they don't come to New England often enough), but, this was the best of the four I've seen. They just get better and better ... lucky us.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: Hampton Beach Casino Aug 29 Reply with quote

donnavox wrote:
i am new to the Blue October online fan community, but i am an active member of U2's online community. For years i have been trading bootlegs with other U2 fans but i now found myself in desperate need of some live Blue October. i've read the band's official policy and know that they approve of the bootleg thing, but, i don't know how to go about finding somebody to get me started ... I am specifically looking for last night's show at the Hampton Beach Casino in New Hampshire. For those of you that were there I am sure you'll agree that it was a passionate, fiery show ... I've not seen that many Blue October shows (they don't come to New England often enough), but, this was the best of the four I've seen. They just get better and better ... lucky us.


Check out the thread here

http://www.blueoctoberfan.com/openBook/viewtopic.php?t=70245

Enjoy! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think all the HOBs (House of Blues) have strict policies for recording devices.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Hampton Beach Casino Aug 29 Reply with quote

donnavox wrote:
i am new to the Blue October online fan community, but i am an active member of U2's online community. For years i have been trading bootlegs with other U2 fans but i now found myself in desperate need of some live Blue October. i've read the band's official policy and know that they approve of the bootleg thing, but, i don't know how to go about finding somebody to get me started ... I am specifically looking for last night's show at the Hampton Beach Casino in New Hampshire. For those of you that were there I am sure you'll agree that it was a passionate, fiery show ... I've not seen that many Blue October shows (they don't come to New England often enough), but, this was the best of the four I've seen. They just get better and better ... lucky us.

you need to respect the band and NOT make money off their shit unless THEY say it's okay...
THEY worked to make the band what it is..not you!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Hampton Beach Casino Aug 29 Reply with quote

BlueCabaret09 wrote:
donnavox wrote:
i am new to the Blue October online fan community, but i am an active member of U2's online community. For years i have been trading bootlegs with other U2 fans but i now found myself in desperate need of some live Blue October. i've read the band's official policy and know that they approve of the bootleg thing, but, i don't know how to go about finding somebody to get me started ... I am specifically looking for last night's show at the Hampton Beach Casino in New Hampshire. For those of you that were there I am sure you'll agree that it was a passionate, fiery show ... I've not seen that many Blue October shows (they don't come to New England often enough), but, this was the best of the four I've seen. They just get better and better ... lucky us.

you need to respect the band and NOT make money off their shit unless THEY say it's okay...
THEY worked to make the band what it is..not you!



YOU need to learn to READ and NOT dig up threads from FIVE months ago, (and when you DO make sure your REPLY is relevant to THE post you quoted) there are plenty of NEW threads for you to post ON.

thanks and HAVE a nice DAY
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Hampton Beach Casino Aug 29 Reply with quote

JustAGuy wrote:
BlueCabaret09 wrote:
donnavox wrote:
i am new to the Blue October online fan community, but i am an active member of U2's online community. For years i have been trading bootlegs with other U2 fans but i now found myself in desperate need of some live Blue October. i've read the band's official policy and know that they approve of the bootleg thing, but, i don't know how to go about finding somebody to get me started ... I am specifically looking for last night's show at the Hampton Beach Casino in New Hampshire. For those of you that were there I am sure you'll agree that it was a passionate, fiery show ... I've not seen that many Blue October shows (they don't come to New England often enough), but, this was the best of the four I've seen. They just get better and better ... lucky us.

you need to respect the band and NOT make money off their shit unless THEY say it's okay...
THEY worked to make the band what it is..not you!



YOU need to learn to READ and NOT dig up threads from FIVE months ago, (and when you DO make sure your REPLY is relevant to THE post you quoted) there are plenty of NEW threads for you to post ON.

thanks and HAVE a nice DAY

for one, in your attempt to mock me failed, as you did in poorly. Secondly, I was just stating my opinion, no need for you to get your panties in a twist!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to do the same then. It was just his opinion.

By the way... bootlegging is okay.

Recording a show doesn't mean you're going to do it to sell.

Selling bootlegs = wrong
Sharing bootlegs= right

This is also an opinion... so don't get your panties in a wad.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heretik wrote:
You need to do the same then. It was just his opinion.

By the way... bootlegging is okay.

Recording a show doesn't mean you're going to do it to sell.

Selling bootlegs = wrong
Sharing bootlegs= right

This is also an opinion... so don't get your panties in a wad.

I am doing the same man. He didn't share any opinions. He shared facts that he was bootlegging and looking for shows..
the end.
Nothing more.
I stated my opinion, but you're right, selling=wrong, sharing=okay.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Hampton Beach Casino Aug 29 Reply with quote

BlueCabaret09 wrote:

for one, in your attempt to mock me failed, as you did in poorly.


You mind repeating that in English? Cool

Just pointing out how ridiculous your post was, and the fact the only threads you've posted on were ones you dug up that were months and months old. On top of that it looks like you didn't even bother reading the post you quoted seeing as how you got all high and mighty about selling bootlegs when no one in this thread said anything about selling anything.


Yes the person you quoted shared facts that he was bootlegging shows, he shared facts in a thread that was started by the management team of the band that said ITS OK TO BOOTLEG SHOWS
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: Hampton Beach Casino Aug 29 Reply with quote

JustAGuy wrote:
BlueCabaret09 wrote:

for one, in your attempt to mock me failed, as you did in poorly.


You mind repeating that in English? Cool

Just pointing out how ridiculous your post was, and the fact the only threads you've posted on were ones you dug up that were months and months old. On top of that it looks like you didn't even bother reading the post you quoted seeing as how you got all high and mighty about selling bootlegs when no one in this thread said anything about selling anything.


Yes the person you quoted shared facts that he was bootlegging shows, he shared facts in a thread that was started by the management team of the band that said ITS OK TO BOOTLEG SHOWS


that it's okay to audio record them for PERSONAL review. not to sell.
and i was not high and mighty as it is hard to read a text message and derive what tone i was using...
This is not even WORTH arguing any farther.
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